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Happy Holidays from Wired Magazine

The Quest to End Game Addiction

Happy Holidays, and spend some time with family and friends if possible

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Oh look another article that shows the attempt to prove that Everquest was written by Lucifer himself.
Oh and the new most over used saying by the people who are on the new millenium witchhunt:

Quote:EverQuest -- or EverCrack as some people call it

I really wish the person who game up with that cleaver name would have just kept their cyber mouth shut because it has now been written in the stone journal of anti-questers everwhere.

Quit the book burning people, its getting old.

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Yeah, but that means players have to stop calling it 'Evercrack' also. I mean, let's face it. The whole idea of EQ being addictive came from us players. Everyone joked about it in game and we didn't give it a second thought back then. Now I think we are giving it a second thought.
www.angelfire.com/anime3/...crack.html

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Edited by: Diggo McDiggity at: 12/23/02 6:36:54 pm

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A significant body of current players freely admit that the game is "addictive. I have read and continue to read 'the boards.' I see this there all the time.
When people post that they are retiring, you can count on getting some "Ive thought about retiring but I'm addicted" posts.

When people post, asking who is going to be playing SWG (Star Wars Galaxies), you see posts stating "I got over my Everquest addiction and hope that if I try that game I don't get sucked in again."

Say what you will, but you know what the players know. This jargon is VERY common in the community, and the people are being serious when they post it.

If this was only coming from here, it would be one thing. But it's not.

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Please remember that even though Soprena is a moderator, the official position of OLGA is that excessive game playing is only a symptom of other problems.

There are still many in denial that any of their unacceptable behaviors are their own responsibility. The have a need to establish an external locus of control, and will vehemently deny that they had any problems until that ol' debil EQ came along.

Its nothing but a defense mechanism to avoid taking responsibility. Their egos are to fragile to withstand an objective evaluation of their own faults.

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Quote:Its nothing but a defense mechanism to avoid taking responsibility. As long as they can get away with play, play, play, they will!

Who is holding them accountable for their real life? If they are single and by themselves, they don't have to be held accountable to anyone except going to work so they can pay their ISP bill and their monthly eq bill.

If they have a family, and the family tries to make them responsible and contribute in real life, there will be hell to pay for them.

Liz Woolley

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1. I'm not a spokesperson for OLGA. I am a moderator so that I can delete the posts with links to porn sites and the expletive-filled rants.
2. My message remains the same. Spend some time with your family and friends this holiday season if possible. There are those who will read the Wired article and see themselves, and for them I hope that this helps and that they shut off the computer for a while and spend some time with their RL families in lieu of their virtual friends. If this helps anyone reading this, great! And please let us know by posting your story or a note in the appropriate forum!

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Quote:1. I'm not a spokesperson for OLGA. I am a moderator so that I can delete the posts with links to porn sites and the expletive-filled rants.Wuss...

[bold] I can edit too. [/bold]

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Edited by: Soprena at: 12/24/02 11:44:13 am

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I just finished reading that article, and it makes me horribly sad. I really pity all these people who refuse to be accountable for their lives. Dr. Phil would have a lot to say to them. I'd pay anything to see these EQ addicts hauled off to his show for a dose of responsibility. A quote from that article which bears repeating: "Compulsive playing tends to mask underlying problems such as depression, anger and low self-esteem, said Orzack [director of the Computer Addiction Studies Center], who said she was once hooked on computer solitaire."

For every statement about how EverQuest caused something (EQ ruined my schooling, EQ ruined my relationship, etc), replace "EQ" with "my irresponsibility." If you can accept THAT, you are on the road to recovery. Realize that, while the outside world influences you, YOU ALONE make the choices. Once someone has realized that they have a problem (depression, fear, etc), they can take the steps to get away from EQ. Unless they conquer the root, they'll find a new plaything. Next time, it might be worse than a computer game.

And this has been bothering me for some time, I need to ask. Soprena, if you are "clean" from EverQuest and are proud of it, why are you still using a signature graphic of your characters?

Lisa

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Re: Happy Holidays from Wired Magazine

Just in...from Santa...this is a HOT HOT item this year:
Evercrack T-Shirts

Lisa -- my answer to your question about the 'sig. graphic' I use on the boards is inthis thread.

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Edited by: Diggo McDiggity at: 1/9/03 7:25:02 pm

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Thanks for the reply. My husband had theorized that, as this is an EZboard, you must post as an EQ player with this name and simply don't remove your signature when you post here. /shrug

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"A significant body of current players freely admit that the game is "addictive. I have read and continue to read 'the boards.' I see this there all the time.

When people post that they are retiring, you can count on getting some "Ive thought about retiring but I'm addicted" posts.

When people post, asking who is going to be playing SWG (Star Wars Galaxies), you see posts stating "I got over my Everquest addiction and hope that if I try that game I don't get sucked in again."

Say what you will, but you know what the players know. This jargon is VERY common in the community, and the people are being serious when they post it.

If this was only coming from here, it would be one thing. But it's not."

Having the players make jokes about addictiveness is akin to gay men calling each other fags, queens, ladies, or whatever. It is akin to black people referring to each other in terms that would be offensive if they came out of my lily-white mouth. You have to take it with a grain of salt instead of taking it literally.

Personally, I think almost anyone can become obsessed with something, especially something that falls into the hobby category. I've obsessed over certain things at times in my life, from a woman to a book to a game to a concept. When I was a kid, you couldn't keep me off a baseball diamond. To this day, I watch "It's a Wonderful Life" every time I see it's on TV. I know countless people who watch soap operas religiously. My girlfriend's mom talks about the people on QVC like she knows them. Every week you can see sports fans wearing body paint and sitting topless in the stands when it's 30 below. All obsessions, and all of them have certain aspects to them that foster that obsession. The thing is that we have to draw a line somewhere between being a fan and being a fanatic, and you, Soprena, appear unwilling to draw the line anywhere beyond simple participation. Personally, I believe you *include* simple participation in your definition of "addict," but I'm granting you the benefit of the doubt at the moment.

Tino, but some call me Chris

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Chris/Tino, sorry for the confusion. I have no problem/issues with people playing Everquest on a casual basis. I know a lot of people who play that way, and I don't "preach" to them to stop. My number one goal in participating in this board is to let those who do play excessively and/or compulsively, to their detriment and unhappiness, have a place where they can discuss this with others who currently or in the past played the same way. That is the real work of OLGA for me; the public debate of the addictiveness of mmorpg's, etc etc, is a sideshow that exists for a few reasons. But it's not central, by any means, to the cause of creating a space for those gamers and ex-gamers who want to to talk about their unhappiness with their game playing.
Along the way of thinking about my own Eq experience, I've identified certain contributing factors, some of which many people in the past have noted (such as the persistance of the virtual world and the randomness of the rewards). Personally I am more interested in other factors which get less discussion in the popular and game press, such as the social influence of the guild, both on expectations of playtime and schedule, and via online message boards. The influence of guild membership in the lives of those who play excessively is of particular interest to me. If I were still in school and looking for a topic for a paper, I'd pick this one.

So when you see in my posts reference to my belief that the game itself contributes to excessive playing, I am referring generically to those well-identified game elements, plus the elements from the social structure of the game, including guilds, alliances, teams and their message boards.

I hope that his helps explain my particular views. If questions still exist, ask me here or shoot me an email!

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